Excellent concept. You put in words my sense that all the angst over controlled opposition is not only defeating the purpose of medical (and personal) freedom, but that the idea of everyone agrees with everyone else's point of view is unimportant and unnecessary. All that's needed is a common goal and personal commitment to do what is available to you in pursuit of that goal.
The good news is that a lot of the fringe groups don't have a lot of people. Most of us aren't even enemies. Whether we are Black, Jewish, White, Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Asian, etc. for the most part we are just tired of feeling the boot of government on our neck.
Nice and well expressed. Can't argue with any of it. I suspect as the unraveling continues, we will discover we need to join forces with many groups we will have disagreements with and perhaps not even like.
Thanks, Kathleen. I'm trying to figure out how to make that work, and engaging in an ongoing dialogue with Karl of the white nationalist "Taboo Truths" Substack.
What if, according to most groups, the Jews are the Globalist enemy? There are already coalitions, White Nationalists with black racists, White Nationalists with Islamists. You can see this when opposition figures like David Icke support the Palestinians. I've been advocating what you advocate for 20 years or so. When I had a blog back in the day, I had cordial online discussions with actual neonazis, you could say I was their pinup girl, a Jew who would accept them as fellow nationalists. Now I think that's not going to work with most people, because the others are already united, and it's the Jews that are behind everything, all that's necessary is to defeat the Jews and destroy Israel.
How do you actually collaborate with people like that? They want to round us up and put us on trains. There are a few exceptions, in every group you'll find a few outliers, lets say Ramzpaul who is pretty nasty, but supported Laura Loomer and announced he's a Ziionist. He took a lot of flak for that. He hates us as much as the others and spreads the same lies, but he agrees with you and me about coalitions. However, this is not a winning position, you can't win if only 1% of any group is willing to work with others. This isn't the American Revolution, with Protestants and Catholics agreeing to work together. The groups we're looking at now are more hardcore.
I see one opening. The Jewish people themselves are the only group that aren't viscerally antisemitic. And there is so much work to be done, to get Jews to support each other. And Israel itself must be reformed, because the haters are right, the Israeli leadership are mostly corrupt globalists. If Jews could stop being so complacent and divided and work on themselves and their only state, Israel could stand alone against everyone else. I routinely get excommunicated by the complacent chicken soup Jews, for pointing out how we are enabling the situation, but we aren't going to get anywhere unless we improve our relationships with our own people. The Klan has many good role models, but if you get into a foxhole with most of those people, they'll poison the chicken soup, even during the battle.
A while ago, I heard a great analogy for what you're describing: "A circular firing squad with Jews in the middle." It's true ... The only thing most of these fringe groups seem to agree on is that Jews are the problem (even if, like our debate-club pal Karl, it's "not all Jews").
I've also had extended conversations with neo-Nazis (mainly on Gab, where they show up whether you want to talk to them or not), and come to the same conclusion as you. Unlike the way they're depicted in the media (as ignorant rednecks), many of them are extremely well-read and highly articulate. Karl is a good example. Arguing with them is very much like arguing with the doctors that "debunk" evidence of vaxx harm or the damage of lockdowns. They find a little nugget of inconsistency or discrepancy in the evidence, and use it to invalidate everything else, even when the truth (of e.g., the Holocaust) is plainly evident, and overhelmingly supported by every conceivable form of evidence.
In fact, that experience is why I've abandoned the idea of a conventional coalition in favor of the leaderless resistance model. We can never expect neo-Nazis and Nation of Islam adherents to work with or listen to us. All we can do is agree on a common enemy, and perhaps share leading ideas that point us towards mutually-supporting activities.
I also share your frustration with our lantzmen (based on your comments, I presume you're also a M.O.T). Not only do evil bastards like George Soros provide fuel for every possible antisemitic conspiracy, useful idiots like Albert Bourla and Rochelle Walensky are used as the Jewish faces for an agenda set by non-Jews like Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Klaus Schwab. I do not think it is accidental that so many Jews were front and center on the COVID response; I believe they were placed in those positions specifically so that the general public would "blame the Jews" when the truth started to come out.
The disunity of "the resistance" is something that's weighed on me for years now. I put it in quotation marks because there isn't a "resistance," as you note, there are lots and lots of different groups who can't stand each other. I'm afraid that any "leading ideas" that work across all these different groups would only engage people on the tactical level. And that isn't good enough when we're opposed by a dark religion that utterly consumes its loyal followers. Have to engage people's hearts, or no victory would be complete or lasting. You know where I'm going with this: we need to unite around the cross. Jesus is the leader we need.
Felix, I completely agree with your characterization of the Army of Death as "a dark religion that utterly consumes its loyal followers." We have long known that worshipping false gods is the path to destruction, and we can plainly see it happening before our eyes.
Clearly, faith is an incredibly powerful motivator, and I respect your Christian perspective. I know Andrew Torba of Gab (among others) is working hard to create a Christian army. In this case, I'm advocating for a broader effort that would, just as you say, "engage people on the tactical level."
I find the ideology of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam completely abhorrent, but this is one of those times in history when "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Priority #1 is to defend ourselves against The Great Reset and its associated tyranny. If and when we're able to do that, we can go back to fighting each other.
Excellent concept. You put in words my sense that all the angst over controlled opposition is not only defeating the purpose of medical (and personal) freedom, but that the idea of everyone agrees with everyone else's point of view is unimportant and unnecessary. All that's needed is a common goal and personal commitment to do what is available to you in pursuit of that goal.
Beautifully said! Identifying the most compelling "leading ideas" is the next step.
The good news is that a lot of the fringe groups don't have a lot of people. Most of us aren't even enemies. Whether we are Black, Jewish, White, Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Asian, etc. for the most part we are just tired of feeling the boot of government on our neck.
That's a great point. A rare bit of optimism ... I appreciate it!
Nice and well expressed. Can't argue with any of it. I suspect as the unraveling continues, we will discover we need to join forces with many groups we will have disagreements with and perhaps not even like.
Thanks, Kathleen. I'm trying to figure out how to make that work, and engaging in an ongoing dialogue with Karl of the white nationalist "Taboo Truths" Substack.
Good for you. I'll look forward to your updates. Best.
What if, according to most groups, the Jews are the Globalist enemy? There are already coalitions, White Nationalists with black racists, White Nationalists with Islamists. You can see this when opposition figures like David Icke support the Palestinians. I've been advocating what you advocate for 20 years or so. When I had a blog back in the day, I had cordial online discussions with actual neonazis, you could say I was their pinup girl, a Jew who would accept them as fellow nationalists. Now I think that's not going to work with most people, because the others are already united, and it's the Jews that are behind everything, all that's necessary is to defeat the Jews and destroy Israel.
How do you actually collaborate with people like that? They want to round us up and put us on trains. There are a few exceptions, in every group you'll find a few outliers, lets say Ramzpaul who is pretty nasty, but supported Laura Loomer and announced he's a Ziionist. He took a lot of flak for that. He hates us as much as the others and spreads the same lies, but he agrees with you and me about coalitions. However, this is not a winning position, you can't win if only 1% of any group is willing to work with others. This isn't the American Revolution, with Protestants and Catholics agreeing to work together. The groups we're looking at now are more hardcore.
I see one opening. The Jewish people themselves are the only group that aren't viscerally antisemitic. And there is so much work to be done, to get Jews to support each other. And Israel itself must be reformed, because the haters are right, the Israeli leadership are mostly corrupt globalists. If Jews could stop being so complacent and divided and work on themselves and their only state, Israel could stand alone against everyone else. I routinely get excommunicated by the complacent chicken soup Jews, for pointing out how we are enabling the situation, but we aren't going to get anywhere unless we improve our relationships with our own people. The Klan has many good role models, but if you get into a foxhole with most of those people, they'll poison the chicken soup, even during the battle.
A while ago, I heard a great analogy for what you're describing: "A circular firing squad with Jews in the middle." It's true ... The only thing most of these fringe groups seem to agree on is that Jews are the problem (even if, like our debate-club pal Karl, it's "not all Jews").
I've also had extended conversations with neo-Nazis (mainly on Gab, where they show up whether you want to talk to them or not), and come to the same conclusion as you. Unlike the way they're depicted in the media (as ignorant rednecks), many of them are extremely well-read and highly articulate. Karl is a good example. Arguing with them is very much like arguing with the doctors that "debunk" evidence of vaxx harm or the damage of lockdowns. They find a little nugget of inconsistency or discrepancy in the evidence, and use it to invalidate everything else, even when the truth (of e.g., the Holocaust) is plainly evident, and overhelmingly supported by every conceivable form of evidence.
In fact, that experience is why I've abandoned the idea of a conventional coalition in favor of the leaderless resistance model. We can never expect neo-Nazis and Nation of Islam adherents to work with or listen to us. All we can do is agree on a common enemy, and perhaps share leading ideas that point us towards mutually-supporting activities.
I also share your frustration with our lantzmen (based on your comments, I presume you're also a M.O.T). Not only do evil bastards like George Soros provide fuel for every possible antisemitic conspiracy, useful idiots like Albert Bourla and Rochelle Walensky are used as the Jewish faces for an agenda set by non-Jews like Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Klaus Schwab. I do not think it is accidental that so many Jews were front and center on the COVID response; I believe they were placed in those positions specifically so that the general public would "blame the Jews" when the truth started to come out.
The disunity of "the resistance" is something that's weighed on me for years now. I put it in quotation marks because there isn't a "resistance," as you note, there are lots and lots of different groups who can't stand each other. I'm afraid that any "leading ideas" that work across all these different groups would only engage people on the tactical level. And that isn't good enough when we're opposed by a dark religion that utterly consumes its loyal followers. Have to engage people's hearts, or no victory would be complete or lasting. You know where I'm going with this: we need to unite around the cross. Jesus is the leader we need.
Felix, I completely agree with your characterization of the Army of Death as "a dark religion that utterly consumes its loyal followers." We have long known that worshipping false gods is the path to destruction, and we can plainly see it happening before our eyes.
Clearly, faith is an incredibly powerful motivator, and I respect your Christian perspective. I know Andrew Torba of Gab (among others) is working hard to create a Christian army. In this case, I'm advocating for a broader effort that would, just as you say, "engage people on the tactical level."
I find the ideology of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam completely abhorrent, but this is one of those times in history when "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Priority #1 is to defend ourselves against The Great Reset and its associated tyranny. If and when we're able to do that, we can go back to fighting each other.